Topic: So long and thanks for all the fish http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=17362 ==================== einstein95 ==================== So sad that it should come to this... But oh well. It's times like these where the departing party says things like "with a heavy heart", "I'm afraid that it had to come to this" and many other things where the departing party really wishes that they didn't have to go. I'm not going to say things like that. I joined TCRF to add the text dump of a debug menu to the Game & Watch Gallery 4 page, after finding the site in the hopes of trying to find evidence of a Japanese release. That was 28 months ago. In that time, I've edited countless articles, rose to adminship and banned people. However it's not the wiki that's the problem. It's you. "But einstein95," you say, "don't you mean 'It's not you, it's me'?" and the answer to that is "No". A community where one gets laughed at for holding an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody nor conforms to their worldview (or, according to some people, not an opinion[1]) is not one I wish to be a part of. Now I know what you are going to say, but I won't let you say it. I will, however, answer some questions. Yes, the admins hate you. Yes, the admins have a secret channel in which they talk about how much they hate you.****** No, I do not give two shits about you. --References-- 1. donkey kong being a notable videogame isn't really an opinion lol ****** #bubsy ==================== Xkeeper ==================== I'm just going to reply bluntly because seriously. >Yes, the admins hate you. I personally don't hate anyone and nobody else does. A few editors grind our gears because of their low quality edits, but for the most part things are pretty smooth and we all get along. >Yes, the admins have a secret channel in which they talk about how much they hate you. A) News to me, or at least I wasn't invited. B) Even if they did, who cares? It's a way to vent the frustrations we encounter w/ bullshit on the wiki, and as long as we can keep things civil outside... whose business is it what goes on behind closed doors? >No, I do not give two shits about you. Clearly, as you've been a colossal, arrogant asshole multiple times in the IRC channel. For as much as you like to complain about how the admins are all hateful jerks, you don't really do much to separate yourself. XX:00:22 http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=17362 Hahahaha XX:02:39 einstein95, help usssssss XX:02:51 Why? XX:02:57 we need to play field.bms in twilight princess XX:02:59 it's unused XX:03:24 it's the beta theme from e3 XX:03:47 man, soneek you weren't kidding XX:03:56 these are some of the most layered tracks I've seen XX:04:07 They're great quality though XX:04:15 So it's just to add to TCRF? XX:04:23 yeah I guess XX:04:30 more importantly, to hear authentic beta in game XX:04:32 Then fuck no, I ain't helping XX:04:40 What's your problem? XX:04:55 Didn't you read that jul post? XX:04:58 I quit! XX:05:01 I give up! XX:05:04 .... XX:05:05 Fuck it XX:05:05 cool beans XX:05:06 What post XX:05:10 but who cares about tcrf XX:05:14 this is about cool content XX:05:26 how would restoring a beta song even relate to a website XX:05:35 uh....yeah. What he said. XX:05:41 shut up robo lol XX:05:49 Why should I care about something that has only given me grief and stress for two years XX:05:56 i dunno XX:06:04 Same goes for "beta" content XX:06:04 no one is saying you should care XX:06:13 beta content is genuinely interesting XX:06:13 What would it ever do to me XX:06:27 oh, it's that thread XX:06:27 it's just...a thing XX:06:43 Now that I'm free from TCRF, I can say "fuck off" to unused content XX:06:50 ye, but why XX:06:53 "Yes, the admins hate you. XX:06:54 Yes, the admins have a secret channel in which they talk about how much they hate you. XX:06:54 No, I do not give two shits about you." XX:06:57 Err XX:07:07 All true, Robotortoise, all true XX:07:19 you're acting aggressive towards a really vague concept XX:07:32 I can get not liking people on tcrf, or whatever it is that's going on XX:07:38 but ain't no reason to get angry about beta content XX:07:40 #bubsy XX:07:44 I think we should love beta <3 XX:07:55 Nah, fuck beta XX:07:57 it's just something to be discovered, it doesn't hurt anyone ;) XX:08:21 What exactly do you mean in that they're "talking shit about you"? XX:08:23 "doesn't hurt anyone" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA XX:08:44 hey, uh... XX:08:53 einstein95 are you perchance drunk right now? XX:09:04 I won't judge XX:09:12 Nope, never the stuff XX:09:16 Never done drugs XX:09:23 ok XX:09:23 Still a virgin XX:09:36 not related, but ok XX:10:04 so, how would beta content itself hurt someone? XX:10:19 so, uh, what's happening XX:11:01 Beta content > stress of restoring said beta content > mental breakdown from the stress like you're seeing now XX:11:20 you forgot a part of the equation, though XX:11:34 the stress would probably come from people pressuring you to do it XX:11:44 "stress"? this is volunteer work, yeah? XX:11:54 actually wanting to restore something on your own should never be stressful XX:12:32 "volunteer work"? When is it ever "volunteer work" XX:12:54 you don't HAVE to do it for money XX:12:55 therefore XX:12:58 it's volunteering XX:13:07 uhh... all the time, presumably? XX:13:56 unless I'm missing some vital information, you're not obliged to help anyone with anything or to post anything you find in any particular place XX:14:16 I have been having <5 hour nights due to staying up and helping maintain TCRF and find beta content in games. XX:14:23 ... XX:14:29 I have been fucking up my body in the name of beta content XX:14:30 then why don't you tone it down XX:14:45 What have I got out of it? XX:15:05 what were you expecting to get out of it? XX:15:07 Only a way to fuck over my body even more with this thing called "adminship" XX:15:13 you don't have to do it-- it's entirely at your own discretion XX:15:23 So excuuuuuuuse me if I can't have a mental breakdown XX:15:28 no-one's gonna begrudge you for, like, sleeping XX:15:57 well, GSK, there are always gonna be the people that get pissed when you don't do something for them, even though they don't offer anything in return XX:16:08 but I'd tell them to fuck off lol XX:17:17 Kaikun97: Pressuring into finishing Time Hollow article XX:17:18 Hiccup: keeps popping up in #tcrf-reporting and only quit due to being banned from #tcrf XX:17:18 Chpexo: angry at me for doing somethin gother admins (BMF included) wanted XX:17:24 -g XX:17:44 Then you have Robotortoise, the self-admitted "moron" asking me to do stuff XX:17:51 ye but those are people lol XX:17:57 The number of useless people who edit TCRF XX:18:08 But oh no, I can't tell them to fuck off XX:18:18 you can't? XX:18:20 That would be too unadmin-like XX:18:29 I'm meant to help, and be kind XX:18:42 Then you have Robotortoise, the self-admitted "moron" asking me to do stuff XX:18:44 .... XX:18:53 You can always refuse. XX:18:56 [16:31:17] my god I'm a moron XX:19:02 lol XX:19:04 :/ XX:19:05 BUT I CAN'T XX:19:21 Because if I do, then they keep asking XX:19:32 ye, then you go find another community or something XX:19:34 Thye keep asking then other people ask me XX:19:52 ask someone for help, collaborate to find a way to stop them from asking XX:19:59 something could've worked out XX:20:02 I ask for help and NO-ONE HELPS XX:20:27 I have a list of stuff that needs article-ised XX:20:27 because you know more than most of us XX:20:36 I keep showing it to ohters XX:20:41 They do nothing XX:20:51 don't show them a freaking list XX:20:52 I put it on the CTE page and NOTHING GETS SONE XX:20:56 ask them to do a specific task XX:21:05 I do and NO-ONE DOES ANYTHING XX:21:22 It's all basic shit XX:21:31 Then ask one person to do one thing XX:21:37 I've spelt out how to access it and everything XX:21:42 yes XX:21:46 well, in all actuality, it's probably because no one likes to do manual labor XX:21:49 again, it's directed at general people XX:21:56 which is why I can understand if you'd want to deny doing work for other people XX:22:08 Robotortoise: Then you do it XX:22:11 If I asked if anyone in this group wants to lift a brick, no one would say yes XX:22:19 but if I asked one person, they might say yes XX:22:22 You tell others to do shit on the page XX:22:25 No XX:22:28 LOL XX:22:28 SEE! XX:22:29 But I'll do one thing XX:22:44 go ahead XX:22:47 I'll do it tommorow XX:22:49 I have a free day XX:22:52 nothign to do XX:22:57 robo pls mang XX:23:02 why does it matter if you are or aren't an admin? XX:23:27 GSK: Admins have to be the ones to revert shit XX:23:37 They are the ones to clean up after people XX:23:45 That...would explain quite a bit XX:23:46 They are the ones who keep the wiki tidy XX:23:56 Then maybe there need to be more admins XX:24:02 if there's this much work XX:24:17 dood I just wouldn't be an admin XX:24:21 sounds like too much work XX:24:39 I mean, if you honestly have no passion for helping others constantly and offering up your free time to do menial tass XX:24:39 [20:21:51] well, in all actuality, it's probably because no one likes to do manual labor XX:24:41 admin = bad XX:24:52 tasks* XX:25:36 Before I was an admin, I eagerly changed >2000 image descriptions from "Gamecube" to "GameCube" by hand XX:25:58 Why else would they ask me to be an admin XX:25:59 ...eagerly? XX:26:08 I saw a todo and did it XX:26:09 I still can't fathom how there could possibly be enough activity on the wiki to justify that level of investment XX:26:15 but whatever XX:26:55 I'd probably ask someone that dedicated to be an admin XX:27:18 this discussion is clearly beyond me XX:27:26 lol XX:28:35 My name is Logan Butt. I am 19 years old and live in Dunedin, New Zealand. For over two years I have been an admin at TCRF. XX:28:46 I am having a mental breakdown. XX:28:51 cool stuff XX:28:53 what's going on XX:28:59 anything you wanna talk about XX:29:08 I just have been XX:29:18 yeah, but they were talking too XX:29:20 couldn't focus XX:30:12 The just read in-between their lines XX:30:15 *Then XX:31:27 I'm sorry you had to see that soneek XX:49:20 Xkeeper: "Clearly, as you've been a colossal, arrogant asshole multiple times in the IRC channel." Funny as I've been compared to you before XX:49:53 I tend to reserve my asshole-mode for people who are doing it to others XX:49:59 I also genearlly resign myself to letting other people handle things XX:50:21 in any case: if you're saying people compare you to me XX:50:37 consider that I generally don't interact w/ people on the wiki outside of fixing issues or handling major problems XX:50:43 and generally reserve myself for just casually advertising shit XX:51:00 which is obvs. p. different from, you know, being active in the irc channel all the time XX:51:01 vOv XX:52:04 So I've been a colossal asshole but no-ones had the gall to actually tell me until now? XX:53:18 i'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times XX:53:28 (also if you're getting compared to me then that's also a big hint) XX:54:30 To be fair, that was in the Zelda Wiki chat when I was yelling at them as they convert jpegs to png, but i see your point XX:00:46 And that sounded dick-ish, I'm sorry XX:04:12 you're*. internet plz. stop typing it wrong in every possible context. XX:08:57 o/ XX:22:16 o/ XX:06:15 005525 <~Xkeeper> who knows. for what it's worth i don't have an issue with him past his attitude XX:06:16 005531 * +Pepe (pepe@bdnk-673f28e9.dyn.grandenetworks.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) XX:06:16 005546 <~Xkeeper> if he wants to come back at any point and can demonstrate for a while that he's gotten rid of that toxic problem then it's all gravy XX:07:11 I think some time away is what's needed XX:37:24 "They're eyes are linked!" Crunchyroll subs at its finest. XX:58:52 o/ XX:01:59 \o XX:03:09 \o/ XX:03:49 I am hungry : ( XX:04:00 I woke up now XX:06:36 \o/ XX:31:25 Grr... stupid people putting the files in a zip in a multi-part RARchive XX:46:32 nothing like dropping a pot lid on your toe to keep you up XX:55:25 Ow XX:57:58 pot? #420 XX:27:01 CloudMax: Found out why a ci4 texture wasn't getting its palette correctly identified by the searcher: Rice's dumps it with a slight palette variation, just enough to throw it off XX:28:31 Also, how big are ci4 palettes? XX:38:33 cloudmax, can you help me find the offset of positions of Item Slots? XX:38:55 http://pastebin.com/BW7TZ38y XX:39:39 I know there are several slots that are not used, but do not know where they are located. XX:02:20 Woah, link has two hands XX:02:38 (textures) XX:03:01 O.o XX:03:06 what? XX:03:11 http://i.imgur.com/GyYEX3k.png XX:03:21 One's ci8, the other rgb5a1 XX:03:29 hmm no XX:03:40 ? XX:03:54 you need to resize the width. XX:05:01 ? XX:05:26 is using 32px width? XX:06:01 16px XX:06:10 Both are 16 XX:06:33 try 8px XX:07:27 http://i.imgur.com/9AoJUfA.png ET phone home XX:07:54 Porcino, I don't understand a single number of that pastebin XX:08:24 wait XX:08:27 that's usability XX:08:33 00, 01, 09 XX:08:41 oh, it's the inventory layouts :o XX:12:26 lol XX:12:28 Porcino, the ???? section is slot usability in equipment screen. XX:12:45 Quiver slot, kokiri sword, master sword, biggoron, bomb bag, etc. XX:13:26 Quiver slot is marked as 00 as it is treated in a unique way ingame (value is actually not used) XX:13:32 These numbers define which Item Link uses according to their age. XX:13:34 same with strength upgrade XX:13:38 I know XX:13:59 I re-coded the entire equipment screen after all <.< XX:14:18 well, big parts of it XX:14:19 : O XX:14:23 nice XX:14:56 I want to know where is the location of these slots are with interrogation. XX:20:29 Grr... got 4 textures and I can't find their palettes XX:21:26 : X XX:21:35 No idea what they are, possibly beta link eye and mouth textures XX:21:47 One eye and 3 mouths XX:22:09 which the offset? XX:23:19 0x01358D00 in decompressed MM debug XX:23:27 Eye, ci8 XX:23:41 http://i.imgur.com/xQdkfMX.png XX:23:51 There's all of them :P XX:28:25 I do not have MM debug decompressed : ( XX:33:11 Slowly uploading... XX:33:32 I will try yaz0 XX:34:18 Yep, use cloud's yaz0 tool on the debug rom XX:35:23 http://puu.sh/citDj/92bc72c8b8.7z XX:35:31 There's my copy anyway XX:37:07 OKAY, decompressed now XX:37:14 :D XX:43:57 01358D00 it seems a goron link's mouth XX:44:20 * Fireflame (Fireflamesnip@bdnk-68e4162b.clv.wideopenwest.com) has joined XX:44:27 Eyyyyyy guys XX:44:52 o/ XX:44:54 o/ XX:45:55 day 3 XX:46:12 no sign of a solution XX:47:30 i might have to give cloudmax my oca db to check to see if I've got it backed up correctly, then restore the system back to factory default XX:47:36 Porcino: Weird, goron link is the file after it XX:47:47 mzxrules: Dang XX:48:20 Its sure been a while XX:49:10 ^^ one moment XX:49:30 Tell me in a few, going to bed now! XX:49:32 g'night XX:49:32 * einstein95 is now known as einstein|sleep